Anyway, at the very least, the “Ultralight Startups” scene sounds like a great place to look for some earlier adopters.

Anyway, thanks so much for helpful insight and yeah, please don’t wait another year before your next comment. 😉

I’m very active in the “Ultralight Startups” scene here, which is a big “micropreneur” meet-up. As a developer, I’m talking to a lot of these folks about building their ideas into actual web apps. A lot of people have an idea for a money making website and don’t know how to develop it. AppIgnite could be the way forward.

As a sometimes designer, and web dev who still deals with designers, they’re a picky lot, and I would say you’d have your work cut out for you trying to break into that space.

Just catching up on the last couple of TechZings so I’m a week or so behind. I tend to listen on my way to work, so I haven’t finished this episode yet, but I wamted to offer some thoughts before I forget….

On the power of list building… I’ve listened to TechZing since episode 1, I found out about it because some time ago I’d used Justin’s ezSql library and I’m guessing he leveraged that user list to email everyone when the podcast got going. Incidentally, ezsql@jimohalloran.com is one of the more spammed email addresses I have after it appeared on Juston’s web site 🙂 .

On AppIgnite, I’ve worked as a developer for small designer shops in a previous job. In my experience small design shops (the sorts of plces without developers) tend not to have their own web hosting (beyond whatever hosts their company web site). They’ll often just use whatever their client is already using or yours if you recommend it. For AppIgnite what that may mean if you go down the exporting the app strategy, you might be pitching a product to designers and saying “you must run the app on your own hosting”. Which creates a barrier if the designer doesn’t have hosting already. They they’ve got to satisfy themselves AppIgnite actually works (remember, they’ve never tried it and might be skeptical as to whether they really can do their own apps without a developer), AND they’ve then got to worry about hosting it.

From a pure technical point of view, exporting the app also opens up quite a can of worms too. Because it’s PHP, will you need to consider whether register_globals is on or off, short_open_tags is on or off, higher/lower memory limits, mod_rewrite, php extensions, etc. Lots of variables on different hosts, vs running it on your own machine and controlling the environment. Your framework might already take care of a lot of that, but otherwise if you try and engineer around every possible permutation of PHP config which might affect you, you’ll probably spend a lot of time on development. If you try and shortcut that and publish a “Your host must do XYZ” you create uncertainty about whether their AppIgnite app will work on their host (which might be a disinventive to try AppIgnite to begin with).

Finally, I fully understand the rationale for not wanting to support hosting and do consulting at the same time (I had the same drama when I worked for a WebDev company supporting their hosting and doing their client work). Have you thought about partnering with a hosting provider and offering hosting from a 3rd party as part of the subscription for AppIgnite? The customer can contact your partner for support, and you only work with a single hosting provider which give you a nice controlled environment. Ideally your hosting provider would have a web service you can use to create new hosting accounts and you integrate signing up for hosting into the AppIgnite signup.

Keep up the good work guys.

Jim.

PS: Hopefully it won’t be another 56 shows before I get around to leaving a comment 🙂

Just an idea I had while listening, feel free to ignore me 😉

Good show, thanks!

He might be a good future guest on email and/or SEO as the Pluggio, Swarm and AppIgnite projects move forward. Plus he talks fast (not as fast as Jason, of course)!!

Jason :
@Andrew Warner Mixergy is one of my favorite podcasts. I’ve listened to more episodes than I can count. Keep up the great work!

+1. One of the best.

“Forget about Mixergy”? You can’t really mean that. 😉

In case you missed it, this HN thread http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1565140 is relevant to tech podcasts.

Cheers,
Julian

Taking into account that I’ve listen all of your shows, which all together gives pretty hell of the time, listening it with speed 1.4 of the normal one was really nice time reduction tip, which I’ve learned, as I said before from the SftRoU guys. The podcasts still sounds very reasonable and your arguments exchanges during discussions are even more dynamic than normally.

Ok. I will definitely let you know when I launch the website. Right now we are having only, coming soon page, but we are making final improvements, internal testing, optimization of the speed of page loading and so on. Unfortunately this is made for the local market so it’s not in English. But at least you can check & get feeling about general design & idea behind it. You should find the link to it’s twitter page in my profile.

Ok good luck with your show! I think that you have total chance to make it THE BEST startup podcast in the web. Forget about Mixergy and so on. The fact that you are talking about this subject from the coder-founders perspective for me is huge! And btw. I’m also big Appcelerator fan that I have discovered something like 2 months ago. Your show only confirmed that Appcelerator is the real deal and it’s worth to strongly dive in to it.

Rob was an awesome guest and I’m glad to have discovered his show, which I agree they do a good job with.

That’s funny about the casino gulag and you just reminded me that I think it’s time to get caught up with Max Keiser.

Let us know when you’re ready to launch your startup and we’ll promote it on the show.

Btw. In less than one month I will be launching prediction markets startup. You know Jason … hopefully in the convergence to the world of Max’s Casino Gulag there will be some market for social betting. Hehe! If not I’ve still big chunks of code to try other ideas.

The best part is that in your tech disscusions you are bringing also other subjects, like math, science, economics & even alternative theories! Keep up the good work!