In terms of using MongoDB for AppIgnite’s datastore, that’s kind of just an idea. We have MySQL working really well, so I don’t think changing to MongoDB is something we need to worry about it the short-term. In the long-term, however, I think it might be a fun little project.

I haven’t used any kind of web socket technology for any of the trading infrastructure I’ve developed mainly because it’s all been behind firewalls and not on the web. Custom binary messages built on top of raw TCP sockets has been the transport mechanism I’ve used.

But I gotta say, as usual, old lispers are rolling their eyes. I remember my prof giving a lecture about how simple functions can be composed to model electric circuit (as opposed to webservers).

Also, I agree, articles on full-stack js are definitely needed. What kind of posts would you be interested in?

Jason, using MongoDB as a generic datastore for AppIgnite sounds pretty hard especially around relationships. But since you built your own ORM already I suspect you are not intimidated by that challenge! 😉
Btw I came across a super deep set of MongoDB videocasts at: http://lacantine.ubicast.eu/categories/mongofr/ (despite the fact you see mongofr the content is actually in English). Several are from Eliot Horowitz (himself – CEO of MongoDB). I especially recommend the one on sharding.

Justin, even though you have not had much time to work on Pluggio, I like the new “Get Full Conversation” feature and the twitter id drowdown (which I discovered today!). This is awesome as it brings some kind of order into the Twitter stream chaos. I definitely think you should keep working on it. I think that it is still an awesome product, and I like the fact you can get organized around which tweets to schedule and then be free to tweet as you go.

What a coincidence, when I played the show on Thursday as I was driving in to work, my goal for the day was to look into web sockets for a new version of one of our internal enterprise apps! So that totally put me in the mood when you started to discuss Comet. Since we use .NET at work, I found that there was a C# server framework called Nugget (http://bit.ly/cswbsockets). Jason, in your .net trading apps have you come across other types of web socket solutions?
I am looking forward to the PubNub episode.

Hey Justin, how about having a nice small image/ad for TechZingLive? We could place it on our blogs to help promote the show. Or a fun little badge for “hard-core” listeners? Could be fun.

First, I love the idea of a full Javascript stack and once I can easily do everything I can do in PHP with Javascript then I’m there! If you’ve seen any tutorials on the subject then please let me know because I’m very interested in the possibility. Also, it would be awesome to get someone on for an interview who’s an expert on the subject and is one of the people leading the charge. If you have any suggestions then please let me know.

Second, in regards to the rise of DOM games, Stephen and Todd from PubNub are going to be guests on our next show and Stephen and I have already been pinging back and forth about the possibility of collaborating on a real-time, massively multi-player, browser-based strategy game. Wow, that’s quite a mouthful and I didn’t even throw in the part about having using AI agents to power most of the activity! 😉 I talked a little bit about this concept back in Techzing 40 – AppIgnite Revealed.

By the way, your http://www.defuddle.me project has a lot in common with a proof of concept project that Stephen showed me earlier today. All of this stuff is very, very cool and I think there’s a lot of opportunity here. If you have time, why don’t you write up a kick-ass blog post about what you’re working on and maybe some of the full stack Javascript stuff and we’ll talk about it on the show. Plus, I’m sure you could get some good Hacker News love. 😉

Also, thanks for these great comments. It makes the podcast all the more fun when we get to meet, learn and share ideas with our listeners.

Defuddle is the culmination of two trends I’m seeing: full stack javascript (aka server side js) and the rise of DOM games.

The idea behind full stack javascript is to reduce the number of impedance mismatches. Going from SQL to Java Objects to JSON/XML is a nightmare. With full stack js, it’s JSON all the way down. My friend actually gave a talk about this at a nosql conference: http://jimbojw.com/fullstack/

As for the rise of DOM games, consider these facts: people love mindless gaming (see bored.com), people hate installing software (see the 90s), an ipad is sold every 3 seconds (see blogosphere), the ipad doesn’t support flash (see Steve Jobs). There seems to be an opportunity here.

Just my two cents…

To be honest, I don’t know very much about Websockets, but I think you’re right that as a new standard it’s probably not fully supported by the majority of browsers at this point. But with how quickly HTML5 is gaining steam, it would probably be worth keeping an eye on the technology.

By the way, the guys from PubNub are going to be guests on the upcoming show and they’re experts on COMET, so it should be an interesting and educational interview.

Here’s the code if you’re interested: http://github.com/Xavi-/defuddle

I would use a div that is styled like a form because I don’t think that the input of a form would be send to you, but I haven’t done any research on that

@Jason if you do find time / desire to play with the scripts and you have questions, I am more than willing to at least try and answer them. I wanted to use email integration for an idea on my site, yet I discovered the same pitfalls that Justin mentioned.

The varying type of content from the different email providers made it far to much work for the little “feature” I wanted. I only looked at Gmail, Facebook ( yes Facebookmail ) and Yahoo!, yet all three did things differently even when you forced it to Plain text.

( I didnt research any classes to parse the data. )

Also thx for your other kind words Chris. It’s great to get this kind of feedback and really makes the show worth while for me 🙂

@Jason
Listening to you talk about your “idea” for email wizardry. I knocked up a 3 part blog post. ( 3 scripts covering different things you can do )

http://blog.freshteapot.net/post/725328315

I have for a long time, been tempted to write a blog post as feedback in response to your shows. But blogging is not something which comes naturally to me.

@Justin
Very impressed how you managed to put together and get on the app store Swarm. Yet I am genuinely surprised how pluggio has faded from the forefront of your energies.

I have to agree with you both that the biz side of pushing a web app is exciting and dull all at the same time. As someone soon ( sooner than later hopefully ) to release a web app, I feel I have this all to experience soon.

@Justin
Great tip / insight you gave. On how you monitor pluggio buzz on twitter when you mentioned the retweet stuff. A great nugget of information.

I was interested in the conversation about setting up databases and multi-tenated solutions (userid in each row, supporting different schemas in the same db with 50+ columns some configurable etc). I would be interested to hear more discussion around multi-tenated solutions – pros and cons, configuration options etc.

Thanks for another great show guys!

You could cover how to get followers who are engaged with what you twote. Or something.

You are nowhere to be found on Google. I think you could double the number of signups with a good SEO push. Phrase “retweet twitter” -> NO ADVERTISING COMPETITION but has 14K SEARCHES PER MONTH GLOBALLY. #1 result has a page rank of 5. I am tempted to buy Pluggio just to show you up! Gosh!

If you don’t do something, it will be so depressing.