Comments on: 264: TZ Discussion – Jason 2.0 https://techzinglive.com/page/1481/264-tz-discussion-jason-2-0 If you're a hacker, you'll probably like our show ;) Thu, 31 Jul 2014 19:21:23 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: Jon https://techzinglive.com/page/1481/264-tz-discussion-jason-2-0/comment-page-1#comment-18714 Thu, 31 Jul 2014 19:21:23 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1481#comment-18714 >this is not necessarily the same as the ideal diet to become a huge muscle-bound monster

This is a point often lost — the best diet for athletic performance and the best diet for health or longevity have a lot of overlap (neither would have much sugar etc.) but at the margins they diverge somewhat. Essentially some of the things that stimulate growth are counter productive to slowing the aging process.

That said, most any diet is going to be a lot healthier than a standard American diet of whatever.

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By: Jason https://techzinglive.com/page/1481/264-tz-discussion-jason-2-0/comment-page-1#comment-18710 Wed, 30 Jul 2014 22:17:35 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1481#comment-18710 @Sandy – Here you go: http://hackingdistributed.com/2014/06/13/time-for-a-hard-bitcoin-fork

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By: Sandy https://techzinglive.com/page/1481/264-tz-discussion-jason-2-0/comment-page-1#comment-18709 Wed, 30 Jul 2014 00:59:18 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1481#comment-18709 Hey, a few episodes ago you mentioned something like Bitcoin has a bug, in which if some person or group has > 50% they can own the rest (or something similar). Do you have a link to more info on that?

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By: Jason https://techzinglive.com/page/1481/264-tz-discussion-jason-2-0/comment-page-1#comment-18708 Tue, 29 Jul 2014 17:42:08 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1481#comment-18708 @Botj – Yeah, that woud be a good idea. I’m just worried about the time required, which is something I’m severely lacking at the moment. But I’ll think about it.

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By: Botj https://techzinglive.com/page/1481/264-tz-discussion-jason-2-0/comment-page-1#comment-18707 Tue, 29 Jul 2014 17:18:48 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1481#comment-18707 @Jason. Have you thought about live-blogging your progress on the electronics learning? I think keeping track of the topics would prove useful for others trying to find the path. Hell, I’d pay $40 for the outline alone!

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By: Joe https://techzinglive.com/page/1481/264-tz-discussion-jason-2-0/comment-page-1#comment-18706 Tue, 29 Jul 2014 15:51:17 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1481#comment-18706 @Justin — I’m not vegan, but I’ve seen many scientific literature reviews that link high levels of animal protein intake to chronic degenerative diseases (especially cancer and heart disease). Dr. Joel Fuhrman seems to have the most well-researched diet when it comes to long-term health (this is not necessarily the same as the ideal diet to become a huge muscle-bound monster).

I tend to avoid this topic because people have such strong opinions about it. It’s usually counterproductive to discuss it. You brought it up, though, so I thought I’d add my two cents 🙂 I eat meat, but I try to keep my meat consumption pretty low as an overall percentage of my diet. I think there is enough accumulated evidence to suggest that people should be cautious about extremely high animal protein intake. Plus, there’s significant evidence that high vegetable intake is is correlated to low incidences of chronic disease, so I figure that’s the way to go until science can create me an ideal diet based on my genome 🙂

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By: Jason https://techzinglive.com/page/1481/264-tz-discussion-jason-2-0/comment-page-1#comment-18705 Tue, 29 Jul 2014 15:28:24 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1481#comment-18705 @Justin – Confirmation bias much? Yes, much too much. 😉 But like I said, go for it.

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By: Justin https://techzinglive.com/page/1481/264-tz-discussion-jason-2-0/comment-page-1#comment-18704 Tue, 29 Jul 2014 14:49:01 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1481#comment-18704 @Jason – It’s hard to prove anything, but there are some studies that indicate eating plant based diets can be quite healthy.

The Effect of a Plant-Based Diet on Plasma Lipids

After 4 weeks, the participants eating the plant-based diet, rich in nutrients and phytochemicals, reduced their total and LDL cholesterol significantly more than the participants consuming a standard low-fat diet.
http://nutrition.stanford.edu/documents/Plant_based.pdf

Glycemic and cardiovascular parameters improved in Type 2 Diabetes with the high nutrient density (HND) diet

Diets low in animal protein and saturated fat and high in complex carbohydrates, fiber and micronutrients improve glucose tolerance, postprandial glucose and overall glycemic control, as well as decrease insulin resistance.

https://www.drfuhrman.com/members/m_library/OJPM20120300014_73341742.pdf

One of the most robust genetic associations for cardiovascular disease (CVD) is the Chromosome 9p21 region. However, the interaction of this locus with environmental factors has not been extensively explored. We investigated the association of 9p21 with myocardial infarction (MI) in individuals of different ethnicities, and tested for an interaction with environmental factors.

The risk of MI and CVD conferred by Chromosome 9p21 SNPs appears to be modified by a prudent diet high in raw vegetables and fruits.

http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pmed.1001106

Red and processed meat intake and risk of colorectal adenomas: a systematic review and meta-analysis of epidemiological studies.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23380943

Consumption of red meat and processed meat, ethanol from alcoholic drinks (by men and probably by women), as well as body fatness and abdominal fatness and the factors that lead to greater adult-attained height or its consequences are convincing causes of colorectal cancer.

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs13668-011-0006-7

Nonlinear reduction in risk for colorectal cancer by fruit and vegetable intake based on meta-analysis of prospective studies.

Based on meta-analysis of prospective studies, there is a weak but statistically significant nonlinear inverse association between fruit and vegetable intake and colorectal cancer risk.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21600207%20

Red and processed meat and colorectal cancer incidence: meta-analysis of prospective studies.

High intake of red and processed meat is associated with significant increased risk of colorectal, colon and rectal cancers. The overall evidence of prospective studies supports limiting red and processed meat consumption as one of the dietary recommendations for the prevention of colorectal cancer.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21674008

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By: Jason https://techzinglive.com/page/1481/264-tz-discussion-jason-2-0/comment-page-1#comment-18703 Tue, 29 Jul 2014 06:22:20 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1481#comment-18703 @Justin – Just because it’s “possible” to be athletic while being vegan doesn’t prove by any stretch that it’s healthier than not being vegan, but if you want to live off of vegetables then go for it.

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By: Justin https://techzinglive.com/page/1481/264-tz-discussion-jason-2-0/comment-page-1#comment-18702 Tue, 29 Jul 2014 03:42:58 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1481#comment-18702 Where does Frank Medrano get his protein… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ9sfVsBbS8

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By: Justin https://techzinglive.com/page/1481/264-tz-discussion-jason-2-0/comment-page-1#comment-18701 Tue, 29 Jul 2014 03:41:52 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1481#comment-18701 @Jason – You know that guy Frank Medrano is a vegan, right? I TOLD you vegan was the way to go 😉

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By: Joe https://techzinglive.com/page/1481/264-tz-discussion-jason-2-0/comment-page-1#comment-18700 Tue, 29 Jul 2014 03:20:29 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1481#comment-18700 @Jason — sounds like you’ve already developed the frame to bench 315! And I’m sure you’ll see rapid progress on those squats.

Watching Frank Medrano definitely makes me want to step up my game. He’s at the level that makes people stare in disbelief

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By: Jason https://techzinglive.com/page/1481/264-tz-discussion-jason-2-0/comment-page-1#comment-18697 Mon, 28 Jul 2014 22:14:38 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1481#comment-18697 @Justin – That’s nothin’. Check out this guy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFPsvF3UOdo&app=desktop

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By: Jason https://techzinglive.com/page/1481/264-tz-discussion-jason-2-0/comment-page-1#comment-18696 Mon, 28 Jul 2014 22:11:41 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1481#comment-18696 @Joe – Well, I’m just getting back into doing free weights (7 weeks in at this point), so I’m sort of just climbing back up the ladder. This past Friday I did 2 sets of 225 for 5 reps, but I decided not to do a third set since I’ve got 5-3-1 today (Monday) and didn’t want to burn myself out. My all time best bench was 275 for 6 (which was kind of a freak lift), but I was in the 245 x 5 and 265 x 3 range for a while back in 1999. I’m guessing I should be back in that ballpark in another 6 – 8 weeks or so. Given that, I’m hoping to be able to reach 315 maybe in other 4 – 6 months at the the outside. But really I’m more interested in getting my max squat up, since it’s comparatively weak (205 x 5 last week) and it’s really the lift that matters when it comes to explosiveness in sports and most importantly for the vertical leap, which is what I’m going to need if I’m going to ever dunk a basketball. 😉

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By: Joe https://techzinglive.com/page/1481/264-tz-discussion-jason-2-0/comment-page-1#comment-18695 Mon, 28 Jul 2014 19:44:47 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1481#comment-18695 @Justin — that guy has some incredible body control. That’s still a few steps down the road for me 🙂

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By: Justin https://techzinglive.com/page/1481/264-tz-discussion-jason-2-0/comment-page-1#comment-18694 Mon, 28 Jul 2014 18:58:44 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1481#comment-18694 @Joe – When you can do THIS – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NwEe8wT82g – I’ll be impressed 😉

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By: Joe https://techzinglive.com/page/1481/264-tz-discussion-jason-2-0/comment-page-1#comment-18693 Mon, 28 Jul 2014 18:36:39 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1481#comment-18693 It’s awesome that you guys are eating better and hitting the gym so hard! I appreciate the example, and the fact that you guys always have such a positive attitude about always improving.

315 is an ambitious goal. I’d be interested to know what you currently bench, and the timeline you’ve set to reach 315 lbs. My all-time max bench is 2 plates (225 lb), and I currently regularly bench slightly less than that. If I were to reach 315 lb on the bench, I think I’d have to build up my bone density, tendons, and ligaments quite a bit more, which (in my experience) takes longer than building the actual muscle required to bench that much. If you record your progress I’d be interested to see the graph of your power over time.

My current “impossible” goal is a true one-handed pull-up from a dead hang. I don’t personally know anyone that can do it, but it can be done.

Also, I want to mention that eating less calories while keeping up nutrient consumption has been shown to delay the onset of aging and increase lifespan in numerous animals ( example source). This is some nice additional motivation that I use to keep up a vegetable-and-protein-rich diet, low on carbs.

Finally, I’d highly recommend watching american ninja warrior for some great motivation. I know some of the guys who compete (they go to my climbing gym in Colorado) and I’m strongly considering competing myself next year. Those obstacles look like too much fun to resist 🙂

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By: Jason https://techzinglive.com/page/1481/264-tz-discussion-jason-2-0/comment-page-1#comment-18692 Mon, 28 Jul 2014 18:27:07 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1481#comment-18692 @nethy – It’s on! That is, … except for the part about the lucha libre outfits. 😉

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By: Jason https://techzinglive.com/page/1481/264-tz-discussion-jason-2-0/comment-page-1#comment-18691 Mon, 28 Jul 2014 18:25:52 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1481#comment-18691 @Simon Holmes – That’s awesome! Congratulations on making so much progress.

It’s interesting how powerful having specific goals can be. I remember we talked a while back about Derek Sivers’ claim that not openly stating your goals makes them more potent or something:

* Derek Sivers: Keep your goals to yourself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHopJHSlVo4

But honestly I think that’s just plain wrong. I can’t find it now, but I remember reading an article that did a good job of poking holes in the research he cites and why it may not be that generally applicable, so I’m not really buying it. At the very least, stating goals opening and often seems to make me push harder towards them because now I have my ego and reputation on the line. 😉

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By: Jason https://techzinglive.com/page/1481/264-tz-discussion-jason-2-0/comment-page-1#comment-18690 Mon, 28 Jul 2014 18:15:59 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1481#comment-18690 @Doug – You just made my week! Do something for yourself is great, but discovery that you’re in any way serving to inspire other people, well that’s the ultimate.

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By: Jason https://techzinglive.com/page/1481/264-tz-discussion-jason-2-0/comment-page-1#comment-18689 Mon, 28 Jul 2014 18:14:25 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1481#comment-18689 @Helmut – Yeah, I realize we strayed pretty far from tech, but I just couldn’t help myself from talking about it. Also, I was sort of hoping that we could pull out the larger lessons from it. Whether or not we succeeded I don’t know, but as they say, the show is in the can! 😉

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By: nethy https://techzinglive.com/page/1481/264-tz-discussion-jason-2-0/comment-page-1#comment-18688 Mon, 28 Jul 2014 15:17:59 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1481#comment-18688 BTW, we will need before and after shots in lucha libre outfits

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By: nethy https://techzinglive.com/page/1481/264-tz-discussion-jason-2-0/comment-page-1#comment-18687 Mon, 28 Jul 2014 15:13:00 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1481#comment-18687 Dunking a ball is fun and all and it’s an interesting fitness goal, but it hardy fits with the project superhero project.

Here’s one you can all aim for:

There will be blood and sweat and tears. There will be crying mothers, orange masks and morbidly embarrassed children. There will be glory and there will be flying scissor body slams in this one day only event. The date is set and there is no turning back. Jason “Captain America” Roberts takes on The Wild Wolverine (with guest appearance by Justin ‘The Terror’ Vincent) for the coveted techzing belt in a in a one day only extravaganza.

Lucha Libre!!

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By: Simon Holmes https://techzinglive.com/page/1481/264-tz-discussion-jason-2-0/comment-page-1#comment-18686 Mon, 28 Jul 2014 13:44:35 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1481#comment-18686 The exercise thing is an interesting topic, and timely for me. I’ve been working on it for 10 months or so now. I wasn’t particularly overweight, but was very unfit. Last August when I started running (or trying to at least) I couldn’t run a single mile. That was my first goal – how fast can I run a single mile. After a few weeks I did get a bit bored of that and upped the challenge to running a 5km race, which I entered and completed (just about) in November. In the spring, after a winter hiatus I decided to aim for <25minutes for my next race in June. I actually came 9th in <24 minutes. If I hadn't had the 25 minute goal I wouldn't have pushed myself so hard. Realising this was a lightbulb moment for me, reinforcing the importance of having goals.

When I saw the results of the race I noticed that the winner did it in <19 minutes. Now there's a challenge. I want to win the same race again next year, which in relative terms is a 25% increase in pace.

This will be harder work than what I've done so far, and I'm wrapping it up into "Project Six Pack". It's not that I particularly feel a need to have a six pack, but I think it's a good visual goal of building muscle mass and reducing body fat. So I'm currently focusing on strength training like you guys, whilst keeping the running at a reasonable level.

I'm 38, 6 foot tall, and weigh 67kg (148lbs), with around 13.5% body fat. I've got a body-composition monitor like Jason was talking about – I've just started taking the key measurements every day, but tracking them on a 5-day rolling average to even out the daily fluctuations.

Good luck to you both, and everyone else taking on similar challenges. It's good to get away from the desk every now and again 🙂

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By: Doug https://techzinglive.com/page/1481/264-tz-discussion-jason-2-0/comment-page-1#comment-18684 Mon, 28 Jul 2014 13:16:47 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1481#comment-18684 Also that intro had me laughing so hard! Hahaha

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By: Doug https://techzinglive.com/page/1481/264-tz-discussion-jason-2-0/comment-page-1#comment-18683 Mon, 28 Jul 2014 13:15:48 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1481#comment-18683 Found this episode to be very inspirational. I have a bunch of things on my list of things I want to do but would’ve considered impossible but now I’m inspired to chase my dreams. This quote from Jason is what pushed me over the edge: “I’m not going to sit on the sidelines like, ‘I always wanted to do this and I always wanted to do that but I can’t.’ No, you know what you can do whatever the hell you want to do. Do the research, find a way, come up with a plan, and execute. Don’t ask permission. Don’t worry about what anyone else says, just start doing it.”

Thanks so much for the inspiration and I hope to see you both at the summit!

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By: Helmut https://techzinglive.com/page/1481/264-tz-discussion-jason-2-0/comment-page-1#comment-18681 Mon, 28 Jul 2014 02:54:16 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1481#comment-18681 Thanks guys for sharing your healthcare ambitions, altho it is not “tech” related I think it is still applicable to listeners (myself included) and it serves as inspiration.

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By: Jason https://techzinglive.com/page/1481/264-tz-discussion-jason-2-0/comment-page-1#comment-18679 Sun, 27 Jul 2014 18:20:56 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1481#comment-18679 @Clyde – Yeah, that’s … pretty damn impressive.

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By: Clyde https://techzinglive.com/page/1481/264-tz-discussion-jason-2-0/comment-page-1#comment-18678 Sun, 27 Jul 2014 07:45:25 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1481#comment-18678 Oops, forgot to link it. Here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhAP7qWCBAg&index=86&list=WL 🙂

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By: Clyde https://techzinglive.com/page/1481/264-tz-discussion-jason-2-0/comment-page-1#comment-18677 Sun, 27 Jul 2014 07:39:47 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1481#comment-18677 @Jason You should watch this. It’s a 5’5″ guy who trained himself to dunk.

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