Just a note – I found a typo on the site under Types: “Ancient beings from long ago have return.” Also each blurb ends without a period but I assume that is by design.

In the physical space the random booster model is pretty much dead. The only games that can make it work are the ones that already dominate the space — they are grandfathered in essentially. But all the attempts at making new CCGs, and there have been many, failed.

Instead these card games have moved to a non-random model. This is sometimes called LCG: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantasy_Flight_Games#Living_Card_Games

You just buy a set of cards and get all the cards in that set. That’s it. Netrunner and the Game of Thrones card games use this model and it’s been quite successful. Personally this got me back into deck building games as I am long past the age where I am ever going to buy random sets of cards looking for the right ones, collecting things, etc. I just want to get to the game.

It has been a journey and the more we achieve the more we seem to find things that need to be done.

It is never ending but in a good way as despite some tough moments we have really enjoyed the experience and also made some pretty awesome friends.
Nathan Hawkins

Nathan’s story was really interesting and it was fun to see behind of the scenes of how a non-software start up does things. The “stick figure cardboard” cards was funny and definitely fits the line of thinking that an MVP should be minimal enough to be embarrassing 🙂

I don’t play TCGs but it has been interesting seeing the shift from physical to digital. Scrolls (by the same folks that made Minecraft) had an interesting launch plan – you could buy the game while it was in Beta for $20 (vs the typical $50-60 for a retail game) and they were able to start building a community, get lots of play testing done before their actual launch, and get a cash injection/market validation. Additionally, the TCG model of booster packs fits perfectly with an in-app purchase/DLC model so I think we will continue to see growth in this area in the next few years.

Something else that I found insightful was Nathan’s comments about the art quality. He said that people would judge it for a few seconds and as long as it was “good enough” they would put it out of their mind. I think this lesson certainly applies to bootstrapping software as well.

Thanks again, it was a pleasure to speak with you and I am sure our paths will cross in the future hopefully next time in person.

If your listeners are interested I have the link to our Kickstarter project – less then a week to go plus you can check out the art work
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1900221937/conjure-trading-card-game-updated-listing?ref=email

Cheers!
Nathan Hawkins

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