Comments on: 251: TZ Discussion – In Accordance with the Prophecy https://techzinglive.com/page/1421/251-tz-discussion-in-accordance-with-the-prophecy If you're a hacker, you'll probably like our show ;) Sat, 25 Jan 2014 18:21:09 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: Philippe Monnet https://techzinglive.com/page/1421/251-tz-discussion-in-accordance-with-the-prophecy/comment-page-1#comment-16979 Sat, 25 Jan 2014 18:21:09 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1421#comment-16979 Love the new “Here’s looking at you kid” segment – so I added it to the “regular segments” page on the TechzingWiki! 🙂

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By: Michael Rakita https://techzinglive.com/page/1421/251-tz-discussion-in-accordance-with-the-prophecy/comment-page-1#comment-16901 Wed, 22 Jan 2014 21:26:20 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1421#comment-16901 It was another -20F day here in Ottawa. I guess I will go to hibernate and dream about California weather. See you all in spring 😉

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By: Jason https://techzinglive.com/page/1421/251-tz-discussion-in-accordance-with-the-prophecy/comment-page-1#comment-16875 Tue, 21 Jan 2014 22:10:13 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1421#comment-16875 @Gordon Oppenheimer – Yeah, that sounds like a good strategy. It’s depressing how dismissive and disrespectful people on the Internet can be as soon as they reach a point of leverage, or rather, if it just becomes obvious to them that they don’t or won’t need anything from you. That’s why I’m always pleasantly surprised whenever I encounter people who don’t behave that way.

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By: Gordon Oppenheimer https://techzinglive.com/page/1421/251-tz-discussion-in-accordance-with-the-prophecy/comment-page-1#comment-16870 Tue, 21 Jan 2014 20:49:48 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1421#comment-16870 Jason

To add to what you said about not getting a reply on the high frequency trading job, it seems to be the norm today that employers don’t respond to applicants. This is true even after interviews!

Since it would only take them 2 minutes to send a form letter rejection E-mail using their online application tool, I can only conclude that they just don’t care about employees.

I have narrowed down my target companies to only those that have sent me rejection notices.

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By: Jason https://techzinglive.com/page/1421/251-tz-discussion-in-accordance-with-the-prophecy/comment-page-1#comment-16810 Mon, 20 Jan 2014 17:47:38 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1421#comment-16810 @Alfie – Interesting. Thanks so much for the in-depth response. I’m sure we’ll talk about it on an upcoming show once I’ve had a chance to research it a little bit.

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By: Alfie https://techzinglive.com/page/1421/251-tz-discussion-in-accordance-with-the-prophecy/comment-page-1#comment-16803 Mon, 20 Jan 2014 12:08:07 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1421#comment-16803 The first system I tried was when I was around 13 called “Turn on the Human Calculator In You” by Scott Flansburg. Interesting guy btw:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Flansburg

It was an audio cassette course which I did by myself along with the work book in a couple of hours. I thought the tricks were cool and I definately remember using them throughout high school, but I saw them more as party tricks.

I was lent a copy of Trachtenberg by a friend when I was around 15 and was blown away. Take for instance the “Multiplying by 11” rule (the Wikipedia page doesn’t give it any justice):

“Add the digit to its neighbor (on the right)”

e.g 3425 x 11 (in reverse order):

– 5 + 0 = 5
– 2 + 5 = 7
– 4 + 2 = 6
– 3 + 4 = 7
– 0 + 3 = 3

So the answer is 37675. The calculation is almost as fast as reading out loud the number being multiplied! Show that to Colby and tell me he’s not impressed 🙂

How hard is it to learn? Even though 15 is a lot older than the kids in the Math Team, it should be a piece of cake if they know their times tables (i.e. have instant recall) and have you guys to walk them through the rules. It’s not complete magic though as they’ll have to do lots of excercises to drum it in and it does take time getting used to juggling numbers in your head. But I do think that Trachtenberg is a better alternative to standard artithmetic once fundamentals are solid.

Do I remember them now? Not really. Once I started going into higher math, I generally relied on a calculator unfortunately. Laziness catches up. But now that we’re talking about it, I feel inspired to add it to my Amazon list 🙂

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By: Jason https://techzinglive.com/page/1421/251-tz-discussion-in-accordance-with-the-prophecy/comment-page-1#comment-16789 Mon, 20 Jan 2014 05:35:29 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1421#comment-16789 @Alfie – It’s really interesting that you bring that up. My mind had been wandering in that area already, but your suggestion had really got me researching it as a possibility. It seems like it would be the kind of thing the kids would love.

Would you mind telling me what exactly your experience has been with mental math stuff. How hard was it to learn, how old were you, how did you learn it, were you able to remember the techniques, in what ways did it prove useful, etc? Also, why did you like the Trachtenberg method best? I’ve been browsing through a number of similar books, so I’m very curious about how the methods might differ and what might make one superior to the others (assuming they differ much at all).

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By: Jason https://techzinglive.com/page/1421/251-tz-discussion-in-accordance-with-the-prophecy/comment-page-1#comment-16788 Mon, 20 Jan 2014 05:29:10 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1421#comment-16788 @StanisÅ‚aw Pitucha – Absolutely! I’m pretty sure we’ve talked about that specific article at least once or twice.

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By: Jason https://techzinglive.com/page/1421/251-tz-discussion-in-accordance-with-the-prophecy/comment-page-1#comment-16787 Mon, 20 Jan 2014 05:27:35 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1421#comment-16787 @Jeff Whelpley – Hey, no worries and I apologize for the name check. 😉 Also, you should know that I very much enjoy our talks and that I’ve been getting great pleasure from just watching your success.

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By: Jason https://techzinglive.com/page/1421/251-tz-discussion-in-accordance-with-the-prophecy/comment-page-1#comment-16786 Mon, 20 Jan 2014 05:21:39 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1421#comment-16786 @Simon Holmes – Our pleasure! Luck surface area for the win!!! 😉

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By: Jason https://techzinglive.com/page/1421/251-tz-discussion-in-accordance-with-the-prophecy/comment-page-1#comment-16785 Mon, 20 Jan 2014 05:20:47 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1421#comment-16785 @Matt S – I’ve been thinking a lot about it and you might be right! God, I hate the name of this show! 😉

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By: Alfie https://techzinglive.com/page/1421/251-tz-discussion-in-accordance-with-the-prophecy/comment-page-1#comment-16639 Sat, 18 Jan 2014 04:59:48 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1421#comment-16639 Have you guys thought about introduction some speed arithmetic to the Math Team? Even before all the tricks have been mastered, it definately is a confidence booster. I’ve done a couple back in high school, but the one I would is recommend is Trachtenberg’s method:

http://www.amazon.com/Trachtenberg-Speed-System-Basic-Mathematics/dp/4871877094/

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By: StanisÅ‚aw Pitucha https://techzinglive.com/page/1421/251-tz-discussion-in-accordance-with-the-prophecy/comment-page-1#comment-16529 Thu, 16 Jan 2014 13:49:53 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1421#comment-16529 The part about teaching math quickly reminded me of the “There’s no speed limit” blog post. Not sure if it was ever mentioned in the podcast before: http://sivers.org/kimo

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By: Jeff Whelpley https://techzinglive.com/page/1421/251-tz-discussion-in-accordance-with-the-prophecy/comment-page-1#comment-16474 Wed, 15 Jan 2014 13:31:46 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1421#comment-16474 Hey! What’s up with the pot shot, J?

j/k, I actually do feel guilty asking your help because I know you are always busy. If it helps, the advice you give and often just talking to you helps tremendously. I think you would agree that I would not be where I am today without your advice. I only hope that I can repay you in some way in the future for all that you have done.

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By: Simon Holmes https://techzinglive.com/page/1421/251-tz-discussion-in-accordance-with-the-prophecy/comment-page-1#comment-16469 Wed, 15 Jan 2014 10:16:51 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1421#comment-16469 Thanks for the shout-out guys, appreciate it!

Keep up the good work.

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By: Matt S https://techzinglive.com/page/1421/251-tz-discussion-in-accordance-with-the-prophecy/comment-page-1#comment-16456 Wed, 15 Jan 2014 02:16:12 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1421#comment-16456 New year, new segments, just hit an episode milestone (250) – I say now is the time to go ahead and change the name to Generation Zero 🙂

Keep the old feed URL around, introduce the show as “formerly TechZing” for 5 episodes and then make a clean break!

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By: Jason https://techzinglive.com/page/1421/251-tz-discussion-in-accordance-with-the-prophecy/comment-page-1#comment-16437 Mon, 13 Jan 2014 22:04:17 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1421#comment-16437 @StanisÅ‚aw Pitucha – You make a good point. FB will likely retain a lot of users for a long time (15 – 20 years) simply due to inertia and it’s value as an organizing / communication tool, however … if a high percentage of young people continue to defect, then it is destined to become the next AOL.

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By: Stanisław Pitucha https://techzinglive.com/page/1421/251-tz-discussion-in-accordance-with-the-prophecy/comment-page-1#comment-16435 Mon, 13 Jan 2014 21:07:30 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1421#comment-16435 I noticed that everyone talks about facebook lately, trying to analyze the influences of the older generation, which services are the teens joining, etc. But I think that there are more uses for FB than the usual big social network. For example I never used it until I joined a local club which pretty much organised all trips / communication using a FB group. This was true for any group/society I was a part of for the last couple of years. Sure, bigger events go for eventbrite, or similar services, but all the local happenings seem to be on FB only.

And that’s the only context in which I ever experienced a social network really – my family will call, friends will IM directly, people I work(ed) with will email most of the time, people I went to school with will not even contact me unless they’re in any of the previous categories.

I think FB still has a place where you don’t care about the generations – your “friends” who belong to some group can be anywhere between 10 and 90 – as long as they are part of a real-world group that wants to organise themselves in some way, share pictures from the previous events, or exchange some news related to what they’re doing. It seems like those kind of use cases are ignored in almost any FB-related article. Or maybe what I experience is very far from what other people use it for… what do you think?

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