Comments on: 209: TZ Discussion – The Overloaded Life https://techzinglive.com/page/1184/209-tz-discussion-the-overloaded-life If you're a hacker, you'll probably like our show ;) Mon, 15 Oct 2012 17:25:44 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: Bill https://techzinglive.com/page/1184/209-tz-discussion-the-overloaded-life/comment-page-1#comment-10169 Mon, 15 Oct 2012 17:25:44 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1184#comment-10169 Justin has mentioned Swarm a couple times in the last few episodes, but I can’t find it in the iTunes store. Is it still available?

BTW – Your audience is made up of more than just programmers.I’ve been a listener since your first interview with Jason Cohen. I can’t even solve the programming puzzles in CargoBot (which is great for my kids though) I don’t feel like I can contribute much to the discussions, but did want to say that I really enjoy the podcast. It is one of the two or three I really look forward to… so thank you!

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By: Mohammed Firdaus https://techzinglive.com/page/1184/209-tz-discussion-the-overloaded-life/comment-page-1#comment-10088 Mon, 08 Oct 2012 13:43:17 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1184#comment-10088 I’m sure there’s a style of parenting that would still let you be in the running for a parent of the year award but still have time to socialize.

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By: Jason https://techzinglive.com/page/1184/209-tz-discussion-the-overloaded-life/comment-page-1#comment-10080 Sun, 07 Oct 2012 23:16:02 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1184#comment-10080 @Jonathan Wheat – It is cool that Justin is doing Catalyst with me, which I appreciate, but we’ll see how long he lasts. 😉 You should see the look on Justin’s face at the end of a 2-hour session. It’s hilarious! 😉 I’ll try to remember to take a picture of it so you guys can see for yourselves.

Thanks for the info about the Titanium license. I think we’ll probably do a follow-up of that topic on today’s show.

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By: Jason https://techzinglive.com/page/1184/209-tz-discussion-the-overloaded-life/comment-page-1#comment-10079 Sun, 07 Oct 2012 23:09:26 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1184#comment-10079 @Philippe Monnet – Thanks, yeah, I’ve had a number of people recommend HacketyHack as well. It’s definitely on my list of educational tools to review – along with Scratch, RobotMind, KidsRuby and DrPython.

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By: Jonathan Wheat https://techzinglive.com/page/1184/209-tz-discussion-the-overloaded-life/comment-page-1#comment-10078 Sun, 07 Oct 2012 19:16:37 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1184#comment-10078 Another great episode. I love that you’re both working together on Catalyst – its such a cool idea. I wish my kids were young again so they could do something like this.

I just finished listening and wanted to chime in on the Appcelerator discussion.

This was posted to the Appcelerator Linked-In group and explains the licensing and the seedy calls people have been getting and what they are going to do about it.

http://developer.appcelerator.com/blog/2012/10/an-open-letter-from-jeff-haynie.html

Sounds like the sales group go out of hand. In this article he cites –


+We cannot pull an App from the App Store and would never do that if we could.
+We will not serve ads in your apps without your permission.

We also realize that there is confusion about what is open source versus what is free. Currently, Titanium SDK is open source under the Apache License.

The following products are not open source, but they are free to use (with some restrictions on usage, for example, certain amount of usage on ACS storage) under the App Explore license: Titanium Studio, as well as the App Explore levels of ACS and Analytics.

I’ve used Appcelerator for 4 mobile apps and it would kill me if I had to pay $5k for a licence. I’d change to Corona SDK (which I’m playing with for a game right now).

Good luck with your app.

-Jon

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By: Philippe Monnet https://techzinglive.com/page/1184/209-tz-discussion-the-overloaded-life/comment-page-1#comment-10076 Sun, 07 Oct 2012 16:21:41 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1184#comment-10076 Another kids-oriented learning environment based on Ruby is Hackety Hack, which was originally created by “Why the lucky stiff” (the Ruby genius) and is now maintained by Steve Klabnik.

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By: Jason https://techzinglive.com/page/1184/209-tz-discussion-the-overloaded-life/comment-page-1#comment-10059 Thu, 04 Oct 2012 21:26:20 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1184#comment-10059 @Abe – Yep, I am a .Net guy (among other things I guess), so it might be worth a look. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

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By: Jason https://techzinglive.com/page/1184/209-tz-discussion-the-overloaded-life/comment-page-1#comment-10058 Thu, 04 Oct 2012 21:24:30 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1184#comment-10058 @Udi Mosayev – Sorry about that. I suck at pronouncing names.

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By: Abe https://techzinglive.com/page/1184/209-tz-discussion-the-overloaded-life/comment-page-1#comment-10057 Thu, 04 Oct 2012 20:30:48 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1184#comment-10057 Jason, you’re also a .Net guy, right? Why not try Monotouch? I should be jumping into it in the next month and would love to hear a non-salesperson experience with it.

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By: Udi Mosayev https://techzinglive.com/page/1184/209-tz-discussion-the-overloaded-life/comment-page-1#comment-10056 Thu, 04 Oct 2012 19:48:00 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1184#comment-10056 Hey,
Let’s say it together: Mo-sa-yev 🙂

Regarding the profiler –
Thank you for the tips, I’ll hack something quick myself based and what you suggested, thank you!

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By: Jason https://techzinglive.com/page/1184/209-tz-discussion-the-overloaded-life/comment-page-1#comment-10055 Thu, 04 Oct 2012 18:26:19 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1184#comment-10055 @James Robert – I like Python a lot, so thanks for all the links. Apparently, Justin has decided that he hates Python even though he’s only seen like 4 lines of it. I thought he was Mr. “I’m open to try new things”? Yeah, right! 😉

Codea does seem kind of cool, but I’m not sure I really want to code on my iPad. After all, I can barely get myself to code on my laptop! 🙂

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By: Jason https://techzinglive.com/page/1184/209-tz-discussion-the-overloaded-life/comment-page-1#comment-10054 Thu, 04 Oct 2012 18:21:51 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1184#comment-10054 @Aleksander – That’s a good point about selective complaining. Maybe I’ve somehow internalized the Star Wars / Star Trek space tech as acceptable even if it’s entirely unrealistic if you stop to think about it for more than thirty seconds. But since time travel always gets me thinking about the various “what ifs”, I end up holding it to a higher standard of realism, which is entirely unfair.

This would might make for a good follow-up discussion on the next show. Thanks for bringing it up.

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By: James Robert https://techzinglive.com/page/1184/209-tz-discussion-the-overloaded-life/comment-page-1#comment-10053 Thu, 04 Oct 2012 13:25:17 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1184#comment-10053 oh, I forgot about Codea. It’s not python (it’s lua) but it’s very polished, supports gestures, multitouch, and graphics and has lots of example code built in:

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/codea/id439571171?mt=8

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By: James Robert https://techzinglive.com/page/1184/209-tz-discussion-the-overloaded-life/comment-page-1#comment-10052 Thu, 04 Oct 2012 13:22:17 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1184#comment-10052 on the topic of Python Editors for iPad, check out:

Pythonista for iPad:

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pythonista/id528579881?mt=8

Also Python for iOS:

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/python-for-ios/id485729872?mt=8

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By: Aleksander https://techzinglive.com/page/1184/209-tz-discussion-the-overloaded-life/comment-page-1#comment-10050 Thu, 04 Oct 2012 10:12:15 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1184#comment-10050 I found it interesting that you guys would question “Looper” (or any movie, for that matter) on scientific basis. I’ve resigned myself to the fact, that ALL movies and TV series are just b.s. in terms of science or strict logic. And that’s usually because making it understandable and relatable (if that’s a word) is much more important.

Take Battlestar Galactica or Star Wars. Why on earth would “future” space fighters be manned? Why would they fight with some silly guns at close range, as if it were WW II allover again? And yet it has to be that way, because if you did warfare more realistically – with swarms of storng-AI-controlled drones and commanders as post-singularity beings with their consciousnesses run at 1000x speed of our thought and relativistic weapons that tear apart entire star systems with a single “shot” and logic bombs dropped thru comms channels… Well, the average viewer would go: Wait, what? WTF just happened? Who won?

I would much prefer that kind of show. But then people who make those movies & TV series have to make money and that means catering to the biggest possible sci-fi audience. A lowest common denominator of geeks, if you will. 😉

But if you know someone in Hollywood who would like to make some niche, ambitious sci-fi, with a strong interactive component for the audience, let me know, I might have some ideas… 😉

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By: Spark N Launch https://techzinglive.com/page/1184/209-tz-discussion-the-overloaded-life/comment-page-1#comment-10049 Thu, 04 Oct 2012 10:00:44 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1184#comment-10049 @ Justin – Love your enthusiasm about the ipad. Last thing you hold before you fall asleep and the first thing you touch when you wake up. What does Georgie think about this? ;p

Don’t worry, women are just as bad!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2199814/We-d-sleep-PHONES-husbands-Checking-phones-thing-sleep-thing-wake-up.html

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By: Jason https://techzinglive.com/page/1184/209-tz-discussion-the-overloaded-life/comment-page-1#comment-10046 Wed, 03 Oct 2012 23:24:32 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1184#comment-10046 @Ignacio – I did like it, I just didn’t love it. 😉 For me it was a solid B, but then so was Avatar and Prometheus even though the latter had some major story problems.

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By: Ignacio https://techzinglive.com/page/1184/209-tz-discussion-the-overloaded-life/comment-page-1#comment-10045 Wed, 03 Oct 2012 21:37:02 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1184#comment-10045 Man, I was sure Jason was gonna rave about “Looper” , guess I was wrong.
Myabe Justin will like it more, it’s very artistic I think.

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By: Justin https://techzinglive.com/page/1184/209-tz-discussion-the-overloaded-life/comment-page-1#comment-10043 Wed, 03 Oct 2012 14:22:55 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1184#comment-10043 @Andrew, oh good catch! http://daneden.me/animate/

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By: Matt S https://techzinglive.com/page/1184/209-tz-discussion-the-overloaded-life/comment-page-1#comment-10042 Wed, 03 Oct 2012 13:44:44 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1184#comment-10042 I’ve heard from two different developers that they just mention the Apache license for Titanium (https://github.com/appcelerator/titanium_mobile) whenever the sales people are pushing them to pay. They were both of the opinion that the sales dept is trying to “scare” people into buying a license.

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By: Andrew https://techzinglive.com/page/1184/209-tz-discussion-the-overloaded-life/comment-page-1#comment-10041 Wed, 03 Oct 2012 09:13:53 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1184#comment-10041 Whats the link to the sample CSS3 transitions page?

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By: Jon https://techzinglive.com/page/1184/209-tz-discussion-the-overloaded-life/comment-page-1#comment-10040 Wed, 03 Oct 2012 02:18:42 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1184#comment-10040 Your game sounds a bit like the card game Why the Lucky Stiff used to teach kids programming:

http://vimeo.com/5047563

The whole video is about teaching kids how to program and is worth watching.

(Why created Hackety Hack which I believe is a precursor to Kids Ruby that you were also talking about on the show)

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By: Justin https://techzinglive.com/page/1184/209-tz-discussion-the-overloaded-life/comment-page-1#comment-10038 Tue, 02 Oct 2012 22:30:16 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1184#comment-10038 Nope it’s working for me and also 80+ people have accessed it…

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By: Helmut Granda https://techzinglive.com/page/1184/209-tz-discussion-the-overloaded-life/comment-page-1#comment-10037 Tue, 02 Oct 2012 22:23:57 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1184#comment-10037 Error: you don’t have permission to access this resource.

Anyone else getting the same issue?

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