Comments on: 187: TZ Discussion – An Equation for Evil https://techzinglive.com/page/1054/187-tz-discussion-an-equation-for-evil If you're a hacker, you'll probably like our show ;) Fri, 01 Jun 2012 04:14:27 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: James McGrath https://techzinglive.com/page/1054/187-tz-discussion-an-equation-for-evil/comment-page-1#comment-8795 Fri, 01 Jun 2012 04:14:27 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1054#comment-8795 Thanks for another solid show guys.

Just heard you talking about the amazing vastness of space (and how average our sun is as a star) and wanted to blogspam you with a recent post on my own blog, with a mindbending video about relative sizes of stars.

The vastness of space is so difficult to get your mind around!

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By: Ben Boyter https://techzinglive.com/page/1054/187-tz-discussion-an-equation-for-evil/comment-page-1#comment-8769 Wed, 30 May 2012 23:16:51 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1054#comment-8769 Not so sure if you can do an equation for evil. The reason being that “evil” is determined by upbringing, social norms, and self thought. Using your example of politicians, they may do evil by your thinking, but it may be totally reasonable by their own. Same thing could apply to day traders, lawyers etc… Whats evil and whats not depends on where you are standing. Its also very easy to rationalize “evil” behavior depending on your circumstances.

I remember discussing this some time ago with some friends. Imagine two civilizations start at the same time. One fosters the idea of helping one another, and as it grows forms alliances with its neighbors. The other becomes a death cult where the strong exploit the weak and it conquers its neighbors and sacrifices people to its gods.

Which one is evil? From out point of view the death cult one is evil, but assuming they both started at the same time neither is any more right then the other. What they are doing is what each society believes is right and might see what the other does as “evil”. After all its easy to say sacrifice is evil, but fostering weakness allowing you to be conquered later could also be evil.

Not sure how you could add the “social norm” into your equation, but im fairly sure its not going to be a case of plugging in some numbers to work out if someone is evil or not as its really subjective.

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By: Matt S https://techzinglive.com/page/1054/187-tz-discussion-an-equation-for-evil/comment-page-1#comment-8766 Wed, 30 May 2012 16:14:13 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1054#comment-8766 Jason – I came across a product similar to your standup app the other day: https://www.thinkfuse.com/welcome/

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By: Guyon https://techzinglive.com/page/1054/187-tz-discussion-an-equation-for-evil/comment-page-1#comment-8765 Wed, 30 May 2012 15:21:07 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1054#comment-8765 There’s no dark side of the moon really 😉

As for an equation for evil? I don’t think it’s easy to formulate. A good example of this (karma to SMBC-Comics) where if you, for example, count the number of lives saved by Batman (call it B), then by induction, the number of lives saved by the people who killed Batman’s parents = B-2.

I like to think of actions in terms of how they increase or decrease the complexity of the surrounding environment. But it’s easy to see that the evaluation of whether it’s an increase or decrease depends a lot on the size of the environment and the duration with which you use to measure the effects.

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By: Stanislaw Pitucha https://techzinglive.com/page/1054/187-tz-discussion-an-equation-for-evil/comment-page-1#comment-8748 Mon, 28 May 2012 23:01:00 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1054#comment-8748 Facebook and calling? they’re not that far from the idea it seems! http://m.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/may/28/facebook-buffy-phone-google-apple?cat=technology&type=article

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By: Filip https://techzinglive.com/page/1054/187-tz-discussion-an-equation-for-evil/comment-page-1#comment-8744 Mon, 28 May 2012 17:26:54 +0000 http://techzinglive.com/?p=1054#comment-8744 Thank you for the mention, guys.
Happy to support your cause! 🙂

I bet most personal finance apps have started out of their creators’ own need. That’s my story, at least.

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