328: TZ Discussion – Nerd on a Mountain

Justin and Jason discuss the Cybertruck debacle, why Justin is moving to a mountain hideaway, Jason’s plans for taking the Math Academy software to the next level, the importance of engaging in R&D even if most of what’s developed is thrown away, the Avie Tevanian Oral History, the brilliance of John von Neumann and the potential of the human race, the Legion rap battle, the Shelby American documentary, how any design that’s too radical is almost always rejected, the NeXT Computer story, how Jason uses emotion as a guide for context switching, and the modern technology that has eliminated a go-to plot device.   

10 Comments
  1. Mark says:

    I love you guy’s discussions and what Jason said early this episode was spot on. Part of why I’ve enjoyed TZ so much was hearing your first takes on Tesla, Uber, Soylent, BTC (and OMG!) from the future. The old, old interviews with Amy Hoy are why I did 30×500, which was a huge win.

    The HN thread about Double Dollar and the Allman-style code formatting was similarly epic.

    Re: Math academy, where is the online material? I’ve been super curious about in and was looking to see if any courses or memberships were available and couldn’t see anything anywhere. AFAICT, the only rigorous resource available online is still OCW…

  2. Glad to hear that you guys might start putting out podcasts more often!

  3. Guys, I think this is the best episode in recent history 🙂
    Listened only half of it so far, but am so eager to listen it all and then once more to catch all the references.
    Two wolves in the house (one wolf in a house is a good decision in like 5% of cases, two is just uffffff 🙂 ), Mountain man, Cybertruck, new math academy video/lecture idea and finally idea for show with retrospection on past episodes… It will be awesome !

    Justin, wish your family good luck in the new home and looking forward to you buying your cyber Tesla. Moment you buy that and get into it please, please, please drive it to Jason’s place and make a video Techzing episode of you parking that spaceship in front of his house and showing all the gadgets 🙂

    Now I need to listen the other half of episode 🙂

    Cheers!
    Vladimir

  4. Joe Stech says:

    Great episode guys! Grade-A entertainment.

    Cybertruck specs are bonkers. I love it.

    And thanks for the documentary recommendations, I’m always looking for those.

  5. Jason says:

    Thanks, guys! Hopefully, I’ll be able to coax Justin down from his mountain refuge every once in a while to record a show. I guess we’ll see. 😉

  6. When you talked about Pixar, I think what you might have been recalling was their (in particular Bruce Peren’s) huge influence on early Linux and the whole Open Source movement…

    From memory, Bruce while working at Pixar needed a huge cluster of machines in order to render the first Toy Story. So he joined, and then became project lead, of a tiny little project called Debian!

    There’s an interesting book and documentary on the backstory of the wild west:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Perens
    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0308808/?ref_=nm_knf_i3
    https://www.amazon.com.au/Open-Sources-Voices-Source-Revolution/dp/1565925823/

  7. Forgot to mention, check out the Debian logo and then check out Buzz Lightyear’s beard!

    Justin: you need to add Mountain Man to your email signature 🙂

  8. Justin says:

    @Mark – DoubleDollar Fac Palm

    @Doug – I hope so….

    @Vladimir – Thanks so much for the good wishes. If I ever get that truck I will for sure do that 😉

    @Alfie – I’m considering your signature idea… 😉

  9. Lee says:

    I hope you guys do start making podcasts more frequently. Back in 2011 I was working an awful webdev job for minimum wage and one of the highlights of my week would be to listen to the show.

    I don’t think it’s unreasonable to say Techzing has been a huge influence on my life. Listening to you guys at the start of my career really helped me grow as both a dev and an entrepreneur. Today luck surface area is one of my guiding principles in life and I make a good amount of my income from the stock market which I got into after listening to Jason talk about investing in TSLA.

    I just wanted you guys to know you’re doing good stuff with the podcast. Even if it’s not provided much of a return in your own lives, I know it’s been a great resource to others like myself.

  10. Jason says:

    @Lee – Thank you so much for sharing that! There’s nothing better than hearing you’ve had a positive impact on someone’s life.

    We’ll try to get another show out soon. It’s just a matter of getting Justin down from his mountain. 😉