235: TZ Discussion – Jurassic Park, for Realz Yo!

Justin and Jason discuss the danger of moving activities from the “get to” column to the “have to” column, Colby’s dramatic improvement in baseball, why he’s quitting soccer and the unreasonable effectiveness of private instruction, the show that didn’t happen, the summer plans for Catalyst, the Oculus Rift virtual reality headset and the founder who was tragically killed,learning to code using Treehousehow NASA is funding a 3D printer for space, participating in the Soylent fundraing campaign, how Jason is helping an AI trading company find a technical partner, Justin’s M-trade strategy and how to test it using Quantopian, how Jason and Colby watched the Robo Rally at the recent Pasadena Engineering and Science Expo, using NXC (Not eXactly C) to program Mindstorm robots in Catalyst, why Jason has fallen embarrassingly behind on his secret project known as Vortex, how Mecruit is stalling out, the Node.js differ module that Jason and Guyon created for Uber and the similarity of NPM modules to Win32 COM libraries, how Rossi’s E-Cat LENR (low energy nuclear reactor) might actually be for realCharlie Munger’s psychology of human misjudgment talkhow cognitive biases cause people to misjudge global risks, how Justin is now a proud owner of exactly one share of TSLA, why Justin put Pluggio on Flippa, how Jason burned himself out by working on too many projects, whether our own humanity could ultimately constrain the advancement of technology, Jason’s theory of how the human race will gradually reengineer itself over time, why Jason recommends the show House of Cards and why Justin recommends the show Parenthood, and the discovery of a frozen mammoth in Siberia.

  1. Andrea says:

    Thanks for getting this up. I have enlisted someone I know to give you an itunes review on my behalf 🙂

  2. The live show idea sounds great.
    In case you’ll actually going for it, you should share ahead of time the topics you want to talk about so participants could prepare.

    Mecruit’s founder found a developer to build its website? or she’s waiting for more developers to show interest? maybe using your network and podcast’s network you can find developers who’ll be interested.

  3. I liked the whole discussion of Have-To vs. Get-To so I added page on the wiki for that topic.

    Also I added a series of basic topics under regular segments such as:
    cognitive biases
    logical fallacies
    Since they come up regularly, I included the links from previous episodes too – as this is something I definitely need to do more reading on.

    Had a good series of flashbacks and LOLZ during the discussion on COM interfaces, CORBA IDL, and just in general packaging components such as Ruby gems, Node modules, or .NET nugets. 🙂

    @Jason, how about interviewing the person who wanted to hire you to do work on a trading platform? It sounds like the story would be fascinating. And this might entice the person to do a series of blog posts after that.

  4. Richard says:

    Well, that’s the last python script I need to write, I’m retiring with my M-trading millions. Thanks Justin!

    I’ll be sure to mention you in my blog post: “Why I quit web startups to do M-trading.” 🙂

  5. Jason says:

    @Richard – LOL!

  6. Jason says:

    @Philippe Monnet – Thanks again for your extreme generosity. We really appreciate all the work you’ve put into the wiki.

    That’s a good idea about getting someone on to talk about the trading stuff. I just need to figure out who would make for a good guest.

  7. Jason says:

    @Andrea – Thanks that’s much appreciated!

  8. David says:

    @jason – regarding MeCruit’s decision to build their web service on a node.js stack, any chance she chose meteor.js as the framework? If so (or not), here’s an interview on the Changelog podcast with one of the guys who “wrote the book” (hint: AnyFu?) on Meteor. Even if your involvement in MeCruit isn’t ongoing, it’s an interesting enough podcast episode to keep you entertained while you’re on the elliptical machine…or sitting outside the gate at Justin’s place. 🙂


    @justin – ok, you were right about whether Jason would bring it up on the podcast if you left him waiting outside the gate, and you even won the game on HackerNews of picking how long he’d wait. (kidding) But seriously, have you ever considered Digedu for participation in Jason Calacanis’ education tech related conference? It may be too late for the upcoming event, but I think it’s a recurring edtech conference.

    LAUNCH Education & Kids
    June 26, & 27 at Microsoft’s campus in Mountain View
    20 awesome edtech startups + educators, investors, developers
    More info at launchedu.co
    Sold out! Join the waitlist.

    @TechzingAudience – man, oh man, the date of the recording for this episode juuuuuust missed all of the news, rumors, disclosures, leaks, denials, and government statements related to data collection and privacy. Hopefully, we’ll still get to hear Jason & Justin’s thoughts on the matter in the next episode.



  9. Another great episode .. thanks!

    One thing about the effort by Jason to do up the show notes etc, how about just jot down a few words and let the listeners help fill inthe blanks? The wiki is perfect for this and it seems to work ok for TWiT network.

    I’m sure there’ll be situations where people will ask for the exact links to specific things that Jason/Justin are talking about, but maybe they can just be slotted in later.

    Would make it less onerous on you both.

    Just an idea.



  10. Jason says:

    @Scott Bennett-McLeish – Yeah, that sounds like a great idea, but I’m just not sure how much we can count on our listeners to help out. Looking at the wiki change log http://techzingwiki.com/doku.php?do=recent&id=start&show_changes=pages, it appears that Philippe Monnet is the only one actually adding or editing content. The show notes are definitely a time-consuming, pain in the ass, but realistically I think I’m going to have to continue doing them myself.

  11. Long time listener first time poster. Just wanted to say I love the show, bit disappointed its only bi-weekly but SO glad it continues :). As a developer, keen sports person, with young toddler I’m really enjoying Jason’s “story telling” on family life. Please keep up the good work!


  12. Jason says:

    @Matthew Skilton – Thanks, I’m glad you’re enjoying the show and my story telling. 😉 I wish we felt like we had enough time to do the show more often, but we’re both a little over-booked these days. Maybe that will change at some point.

  13. Jason says:

    @Udi Mosayev – Yeah, the live show does sound fun, but a 24-hour podcast isn’t going to happen. I need my beauty sleep after all. 😉 Justin and I just need to decide on a good weekend to do it, but we’ll make sure to schedule it in advance so that any listeners interested in participating can jump in with questions and comments.

    I built the skeleton Mecruit site with a candidate sign-up form and some basic copy on how the service will work. If Lola, the founder, can hustle up enough candidate profiles to demonstrate viability from that side of the market, then I’ll go ahead and build out the rest of the site. Lean startup style! But you’re right, I probably should attempt to promote Mecruit to the TZ audience to help jumpstart it. For anyone who’s interested, here’s the candidate profile form:


  14. Chris says:

    I relish the podcast even more now that I only get one every two weeks. Good episode.

    regarding burnout, a quote from B.S.G. is apropos (at least for me):
    “All of this has happened before, and will happen again.”

    I’m kind of stalled out on House of Cards with 3 or 4 to go. I guess it’s a little to slow for my taste. I’ll finish it out though….I think I see where the story is going.

  15. Jason says:

    @Chris – Yeah, that’s a great quote!

    I think we’re currently on episode 8 of House of Cards. I hope we don’t stall out as well. 😉

  16. Rob Walch says:

    Is the differ tool open source yet? What does it do again exactly?

    I’m in a situation where I’m thinking of creating a Chrome Plugin that would monitor a page for a RegEx match, and then notify the user (Chrome/Mac Notification) of a match.

    What I just thought might be more useful is a plugin that would trigger a notification on any diff and then highlight the changes. It would just have to reload the page on some interval and check for changes, or a RegEx match…

    Anyone know of something out there or want to bid on this project? 😉

  17. Rob Walch says:

    BTW – Another great show guys – love the classic formula where life segues into work, into news, then tech and wrapped up with my favorite shows on TV.

  18. Jason says:

    @Rob Walch – I’m glad you like our “non-format” format. Honestly, I think we’re a little too undisciplined to do anything else, or at least I am anyway. 😉

    The differ NPM module is meant to calculate a diff between two Javascript objects and apply them. It sounds like you need something that’s more of a classic string differ library. Anyway, in case you’re interested, here’s a link to the differ module that Guyon and I created:


  19. @alfie, @ben boyter, @alex gammel, @aaron knight – thanks for contributing to the wiki too!

    @rob walch – see also the Differ page on the wiki – http://techzingwiki.com/doku.php?id=differ

  20. @Philippe Monnet No problem at all. Have tried to fit in some editing when waiting for things to compile/run. Although I tend to add odd things like the Zombie Apocalypse Simulator page.