207: TZ Discussion – Catalyzed

Justin and Jason discuss meeting AnyFu all-stars Joanna Wiebe and Lance Jones, the eBook that Jason thinks Justin should write, the lessons Jason wants to teach his kids, principles of negotiation, why kids have to learn things the hard way, a post-mortem on the first Catalyst session and what Jason has planned for the second, Rob Walling’s advice on buying apps and websites, Justin’s new $$ Javascript framework and what it takes for an open source project to take off, how the NSA is recruiting hackers and the AT&T tech who blew the whistle on the NSA’s domestic eavesdropping program back in 2006, why Jason thinks Justin would make more money if he marketed himself as an on-demand CTO, how Jason’s father-in-law mistakenly deleted every recording on their DVR, the results of Colby’s academic standards test and what is says about his personality, the story of Wordpoke.me, why Jason likes Titanium, how Google, Amazon, eBay and Facebook et al. are forming a powerful U.S. lobby called the Internet Association, how NOT to recruit top technical talent, the bacteria that was discovered eating plastic in the Sargasso Sea, AnyFu’s true market and why the experts charge so much, and how scientists bioengineered an artificial esophagus.

  1. Chris says:
  2. I just checked out http://plugg.io/

    The new design looks awesome!

  3. Jason, write that ebook. I will buy it! Not only do I want to teach my sons that stuff when they get a little older, I want to fill in my own knowledge gaps.

    Justin, I’m intrigued by $$. I am a JS dev and often find myself working on those single pagers as well. Not sure how much time I have at the moment to play around with it, but if I do get some time, I’ll hit you up for a sneak.

    Also, have you guys seen memstash? Seems very close to what Jason’s Memory Hole. I’d be curious to see what Jason makes of it. http://memstash.co

    Thanks for another great show!

  4. I like the on demand CTO idea. In a way, the idea touches on the same concept as the anchoring idea Jason discussed at the beginning of the show. When you present yourself as a CTO, you are anchoring yourself to that higher tier.

  5. Jason says:

    @John Polacek – I’ve been meaning to take a look at Memstash because at least on the surface it does sound a lot like what I was proposing with the Memory Hole project. In fact, it’s so similar that I wonder if they got the idea from the show or if they just happened to think of it independently.

  6. Jason says:

    @Jeff Whelpley – Exactly, and in addition to anchoring the strategy also employs another powerful negotiating technique known as “framing”. – http://www.negotiatormagazine.com/article224_1.html

  7. Corey says:

    Jason, start a blog of all the fallacies, etc. Write one per post, build an audience, and then consolidate them into a book, like Spolsky, Sivers, Godin, Kawaski and everyone else did.

  8. Great show again guys! I too am interested in seeing that book! Its quite funny how most of the podcasts you bring up on the show are on my list of listening too (planet money etc..). Do you listen to skeptics guide to the universe? Thats a great podcast. I actually think entrepreneurially minded people make for natural skeptics. Its all about questioning conventional wisdom and not automatically accepting figures of authority etc…

    I’d like to learn more about $$ as well. I’m using AngularJS at the moment, which is pretty good. Those google boys know how to come up with a framework.

  9. Alfie says:

    For anyone interested in propaganda, there’s a step-by-step book on propaganda like how @corey outlines:


    For some reason UK Amazon has the table of contents but the US link doesn’t?

    It’s thin and the text is simple, but I found it a really good read.

  10. Re: on-demand CTO – that’s an interesting idea, the trick is to demonstrate having played a CTO role.

    Like Justin, I actually prefer building a mobile business app as a web app using jQuery Mobile and Apache Cordova (a.k.a. PhoneGap) as it allows you:
    – leverage standard widgets
    – target different OS and device type/size combinations
    – style the app using CSS
    – debug the app locally on Chrome and remotely using Weinre
    – emulate the app on multiple device type/shape using Ripple